How Do I Stay Sensitive to the Holy Spirit? | Brian Head Welch (Korn) and Ryan Ries (Whosoevers)

What's up, everyone? This is Ben from Provoke and Inspire, and today's episode was awesome. It was in person. Now it did not feature the usual cast of characters. It was David.

It was myself. And then we had not one, but two amazing guests. We had Ryan Rees, the former pro skater and cofounder of the whosoevers, and Brian Head Welch from the band Korn. He was actually playing the last show of their thirty year anniversary tour in Minneapolis and was gracious enough to spend some time with us the day of the show to have this conversation. So the four of us got together.

There's a kindred spirit amongst us because we are all passionate about evangelism and God has given us creative ways to do that. And we had an amazing conversation. We talked about the power of the Holy Spirit. We talked about the idea of listening to God's guidance and leading. We talked about how to use everyday opportunities to share the cross.

It was an awesome conversation. It was fun. It was funny. It was serious. It was everything you want.

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Well, I'm gonna get to the episode. I wanna just stop real quick and say thank you for supporting this through all these years. It means so much to me. I hope you enjoy this conversation with Brian Head Welch from Korn and Ryan Rees. You're listening to the Provoke and Inspire podcast.

Well, what's up, fellas? Here we are like we always knew we would be in the Glass Bowl. Ryan, Brian, that seems intentional. And the Pierce's. That's it.

What are you both doing here in Minneapolis? Oh my gosh. It was, like, like, a few days ago. So I so Korn's on tour, and our last stop is here in Minneapolis. And he hit me up a few days ago.

Ryan hit me up and was like, hey. I have a friend, you know, a friend of a friend, you know, wanted to link up, shoot the show. So, he said, would Minneapolis work? And I was like, yeah. It's actually, kinda chill.

You know? Because we didn't really talk. We talked talked about it at a podcast. We didn't talk about much more. So I kind of do this on on on tours.

I let people hit me up, and then I schedule things, and I'm like, that's how I feel like God put things together. And so I just schedule things, and then and then I let it happen. And then at the last minute, it seems like every city, all these other people wanna do stuff, and I'm like, wait. I already scheduled this. Sorry.

So that's how I usually do it. And and so I scheduled him first and and then well, you with this podcast first, and then him, and I was like, oh, we'll make that work easy. And then I asked you this morning, I think, or last night, want me to bring Ryan, and you're like, yeah. So that's how we're here. That's great.

Flew out just to hang out. I was on a fishing trip, and I got a phone call from a friend saying that, a friend wanted to come out and shoot the show or a friend over here. Right? Wherever he's at. And, then I called him, and it was their last show here in America before they leave to Australia.

So I flew in straight from Mexico. That's so cool. Yeah. And then and then we we sit at the dinner table and he goes, hey. The guys from Provoke wanna do a podcast.

And I said, we were trying to schedule something anyway, so it's kinda two for one. Just thought it was too perfect. No. It is. Because he's here, and I knew that he's been on the show before.

And it was like I knew you guys would be like, yeah. Let's just talk. No. Ryan, you're legit, man. Every time we have you on, I'm like, I'm inspired for the gospel even more.

So to get both of you, this is, this is cool. So you have your last show tonight. How's this tour been? How's it gone? Everything's sold out besides, three shows, two two or three.

It's just crazy to see every seat on top because, usually, it's like slim pick ends up on the top, and so you focus here. Play with places that have a top, then you don't have that problem. It's true. And we usually we usually wouldn't. You know, we did mainly, amphitheaters.

You know? It just goes like that. But it's not all about that, but it's been fun. You know? It's been fun to see, just a resurgence and everything and and see, you know, God move in the middle of it, and there's been God moments on this tour.

I didn't tell you, but I went to I went to one of the biggest, polluted drug polluted areas in The United States. It was, ports Portsmouth, Ohio. They send a lot of addicts there. And, dude, I went to this church. I was on, like, two hours sleep, and I I I flew.

I let everybody took the bus. I flew so I could go to this spot. I had to I had to land in Columbus, get a car for two hours to go to this little spot where they send all these addicts. And I spoke at this church that had had a big old sanctuary, totally packed. And then and then there was a door and then another room, and that whole room was packed.

So there was a couple thousand people, all people struggling. And I'm telling you know, when, like, when we were talking about God's, like, anointing falls on you, It was so powerful. It just I started I told my story briefly, and then I just started telling them, like, who they were and their identity and Christ and everything, and they just got lit up. I got to pray for people. And and then I was gone at, like, 8PM, 9PM.

I was gone in a hotel and, on a on a flight at 4AM or in a car at 4AM to get catch a flight. It was just out of control. So and then there was, I met a guy named John, North Carolina. He actually got in a car accident during COVID, and he's he's paralyzed. And then he just got diagnosed with cancer.

He came to the show. That guy, bro, rocked my world. I I talked to him on FaceTime the other night or yesterday, actually. And, he is so amazing. He's just so he, he has the record for North Carolina for the longest CPR.

He has four hours they spent on him to bring him back from the dead. 30 nurses and doctors in in three or four hours. I posted it on my on my Instagram, and he's just a fighter, man. I talked to him yesterday. And then the freaking North Carolina, you know what happened there.

He lost his house, about ready to slide off a cliff or something. He had to get out. So the nurse took him in, and he lives with his nurse and his family. And it's just like it's crazy, man. All these god stories like that throughout the tour.

You know? That reminds me of we were I don't know. I think it was, Poland, and there was someone who was paralyzed that I talked to, and he was a big fan of Korn. So remember I I don't know if you remember this. So, anyway, you called him, and we prayed for him, and he was healed.

He contacted me, like, a week later and said, after you guys prayed for me, I was healed. Every time we get a poll and we do something together, And it's always, like, massive people show up. It's like people are hungry. Oh, yeah. The last time we went, it was, like, blocks away from the venue.

It was completely packed. Yeah. Did you guys set up the France thing? Because I did something in France too. And it was We have people in France, but I don't I don't know for sure.

It's not a word. Oh, no. No. It was my other friend. Okay.

It's my other friend. We take credit for it if it was a good thing. What part hey. What part of Poland? Warsaw.

Warsaw would be all over it probably. All over it. Yeah. Oh, Warsaw is one of them? Warsaw is with main mainly where we live.

And Warsaw. In front of Warsaw. Yeah. But their their their dude, Luke, lives out there, and he set up the one in Poland. And and, yeah, it was just I I have a translator and just break it down, man.

France was amazing, though. It was really cool, and Poland was too. It's amazing. Luke is always good. What's new with you, Ryan?

What's going on? Dude, this guy. I was in Poland actually recently in Germany. There's this a friend, Barush Sanchez. He's like a worship leader.

He does, like, praise parties all through, like, Poland and Germany and those churches. So he brought me out there. I just wanted to kinda tag along and and and see, what it was like in Europe. I used to go out there for skateboard tours, but I never did any, any ministry out there. So I got to kinda see all that, and Poland was amazing, Germany.

So I did that. And then yeah. So what I've been doing since I don't remember the last time we talked. It's been a while. It's been, like, six years or something?

It's been way more than three. Long? Pre COVID, I would say for sure. Because I was I remember talking to you guys, and I was sitting at the at my bar in my house. That was a long time ago.

That was before COVID when I was in that house. So since then, we've been touring. When COVID hit, we just continued touring all over. Wherever we could go, you know, to the to the red states that were open, blue states were closed, you know, to the COVID thing. But then all that to say, God led me to go you start you start talking on my heart to move out of California, which didn't make sense because of my whole my whole wife's family business is there with the whosoever's were there.

But, I was I was like, okay, god. If you want me to move, where do you want me to go? You know? Like and we were praying. We're like, okay.

Are we going to Florida? We're gonna go to Texas. We're gonna go to Tennessee. Like, if we're gonna move out of a blue state, we're gonna go to a red state. Right?

That's what I felt with my family. So but then we were go we kept going back and forth to Idaho, because we loved Idaho because my cousin lived up there. So we kept going back and forth. And so then I'm like, do you want us to move to Idaho? So I was praying, fasting.

And I remember one day, I was leaving the ice cream store with my kids down there in San Clemente, and they were all in front of me walking to the car. And I said, god, I go, you want me to go to Idaho? I need, like, a vision. I need a dream or I need a word. And when I said word, I heard go through my whole body.

Like, I just heard go. So I got in the car and I said, hey, Crystal. I said, god just spoke to me. She goes, what do you say? I said, he said, go.

We need to go to Idaho. Isn't that where Napoleon Dynamite's from? Yes. I found that out. Napoleon Dynamite with all of us.

Hanging out with him now? Or I wish. But go in French means, like Stay. It means the desert. So you're supposed to be in the desert.

I'm just And you know in there. I'm just joking. If you spell go backwards, it's og. Oh, shit. What does og mean in in Polish?

Yeah. Think about that. Did you think about that? Now here you are with the potatoes and Napoleon Dynamite. Look.

The Christian brother is sowing doubt in his food. It it didn't hey. It didn't make sense. One thing you're saying is I think it was before we started recording was about how you fill your schedule. And one thing we talk a lot about is trying to inspire people to see their context, their culture, their their scene as something to be used for the gospel.

Like, where has God put you, and how can you be open to his leading and using those opportunities to tell people the truth? And so, obviously, I think all of us have more platform based context and calling scenes. But what I love is that the stories you always seem to share, and I I would love to hear your stories too, is it's these just everyday whatever God happens to be putting in front of me kind of moments that seem to be most profound in your life. Like, how how do you hear from the Lord, both of you, and how do you take advantage of just everyday life as an opportunity to see God move? Because it seems like that's happening all the time, and I just wanna hear more about that.

Well, last night last night, we're like, hey. Let's go. Let's go to the movies. So we go to the movies, get candy. We're we're talking yapping the whole time.

We walk in the wrong theater, and then we look around, and we're like, is this Theater 10? There's, like, 20 people in there, and the lights are on before the movie. They're like, no. It's eight. So we're like, oh, we're in the wrong theater.

So me and him walk out, and we start walking out of the Theater 10. All of a sudden, this guy behind us is like he comes out of the theater. Hey. Are you Brian Welch and Ryan Rees? We're like, at the end, we're like, yeah.

That's us. What's up? He's all the whosoevers? Like, yeah. He's and he comes down.

And, anyway, long story short, he's like, dude, me and my family, we are involved with, like, a lot of witchcraft stuff. We got delivered. We got saved. And, he just shared started telling his testimony to us. And and he's a younger guy.

He's, like, in his twenties, early twenties. Wanted to get filled with the holy spirit, and so we prayed for him right there. And he was one awesome guy. And it's just you you know, we got this random theater. I was looking at, like, 15 theaters.

Which one do I go to? And we end up with that one, and we end up walking to the wrong theater, and this guy you know what I mean? It's just meant to be. Certain people seem to have moments like that all the time, and and the tendency could be to think, well, that's unique to them. But do you feel like that's something that is available to all of us?

Yeah. There's a sensitivity to the holy spirit. There's a willingness to be bold and take steps. Obviously, in that case, the dude literally comes out and grabs you. Yeah.

But there are other times when I feel like I'm more sensitive and I see opportunities like that more, and then there are other times when I'm busy and I'm dull to that. Do you feel like this is something that we all should be experiencing? Yeah. So, like, there's times where God will just lead me. He'll just speak to me to go talk to Simone or just lead me, prompt me to go.

But what I've noticed too is, like, when I wake up in the morning, not every morning, but if you could make it a habit of waking up in the morning and saying like, this morning, I woke up and I said, okay, god. I'm going to a Korn concert. Like, this is awesome. I get to hang out with my friends, and this is all you know, it's gonna be just a good show and all that. But I said, use me today.

Open doors. Bring people to me. I go, I'm gonna be backstage. There's gonna be people that need prayer that are gonna just know what we do. So bring them, lead me to them, open the doors, and literally you'll see doorways literally open.

There was one time I was I was leaving my house, and I was going up to to to to LA to go speak at a, like, the, you know, the Gideon Bibles, like, one of their conventions. And I I was surfing all day, and I was driving up in the evening. I was up by, like, Magic Mountain. And I left that day, and I said, god, open the door for me to speak to someone. Well, as I'm driving, I missed I I get on the wrong freeway, and I go right instead of left.

And as I'm like, I'm on the wrong exit. So then I go to exit, and also I see Burger King. And also, I get, like, a a desire for a Whopper. I don't even like Whoppers, but I'm like, dude, a Whopper sounds amazing right now, and I'm starving. So I pull over.

I go inside. I order a Whopper. I'm sitting there waiting for the Whopper, and this dude comes in, and he rolls up behind me, orders, and he's like he just kinda whispers. He's like, yeah, I just got out of rehab. And I'm just like, alright.

Dang. Dang. That sucks, man. And then he's like, yeah. And he starts, like, he's, like, confessing these things to me.

And I'm like, okay. So then I sit down, I start eating my Whopper, and then he comes and sits next to me. And he's talking to me more, and I'm eating my Whopper. I'm thinking, man, this dude needs Jesus, man. Someone's gotta talk to this guy.

Then but what really happened is I prayed. You're like, when I'm eating this burger. I'm just like, I want this burger right now. I don't wanna be bugged. And then God's like, this is the door.

Like, I opened this door. Talked to him. So I put my whopper down. He took off. I chased him out to the parking lot, told my story, prayed for him, and led him to the Lord right there.

God will open doors. He will literally bring people right in front of you. And in conversations, they'll happen, but it's he he he opens the door, or he'll just give you promptings by the Holy Spirit. Yeah. I mean, I always have that if I'm open to it.

Yeah. It's more because God's heart's so broken for the world. And I think if I just I'm so selfish, so I don't want you know, I'm busy or I just and if I say, okay, Lord. I'm willing, then it's daily, obviously. Yep.

Because there's so many lost people out there, and his heart is so broken for people. How many times do I like what you're talking about? I don't feel like it? It's like, oh, I'm too tired or I just do I always have to be talking to people? You know?

Can't someone else pray for this person? And I have to always kinda go through that. And then after I do it, I'm like, oh, I'm so glad I listened to the Holy Spirit. Then you have other times where I know I was supposed to talk to that person, and I don't do it. Mhmm.

And then I'm like, I'm so sorry, Lord. You know, forgive me. And, then I pray that God will send someone else. He will. Because I know I'm not God, and I can't carry everything.

It's a constant thing. I was in Peru recently, and I was teaching on the power of the holy spirit and the gifts and all that. And as I'm at this conference, I see this guy walking in. He's like an older guy set up tearing down. He's like the facilities guy, and he has a knee brace on.

And then the next day of the conference, and God's, like, highlighting him to me. And the next day of the conference, he comes in. He has, like, the double knee brace on. It's like the wrap, and then this one now has, like, the metal bars going up the side. And then the third day he comes in, he has the wrap, the metal bar brace, and a cane.

I said, hey, Migo. Come here. I said, hey. Your knee. And he goes, English.

He doesn't speak in English. I said, I go, I'm gonna pray for your knee. I pray in Jesus' name. I ask that you heal his leg. I don't even know what's wrong with it.

And then I go, how does it feel good, Bueno? And he goes, and, you know, he's not he wasn't too convinced. So I go, alright. I'm out of here. So I leave to go get my bag.

I feel a tap on my shoulder. It's him, and I look over at him, and he has all of his knee braces off, and he's able to do squats. So I say that to say this. You know that if you do step up by faith and if you're sensitive to the holy spirit and he's called you to do it, you're gonna see God's power. If you don't take risks, you're not gonna see that.

Right? You're not gonna see it. But I sometimes I just feel like God is so patient with me. Yeah. Earlier this year, I was in Russia with our teams there.

And so these guys, for them, it's not, will we go to prison? It's when. And so for preaching, you know, they're so bold. You know, I'm talking to this one guy and he's really freaked out about, you know, I have two young children. Can I handle being in prison because of preaching the gospel?

I'm in a place like this and I'm struggling with talking to somebody about Jesus when there's no cost to it at all. Yeah. Really? You know, sometimes I wonder why God doesn't just strike me dead. You know what I mean?

Because he's given me so much, and he's blessed me with so much. And then I always have these struggles. And I know I'm human, and I'm not the answer, but I just feel like so much of the world is in such a crisis. And so if we happen to be in a place like The States or Europe or somewhere else where it's so easy, You know? And I think, what are we gonna do?

What how bad does it have to get, for us to be bold for Jesus as Jesus followers in places like this? You know? Nonetheless, it has to be motivated by love. One thing I've been trying to do in my own personal life is more quality over quantity with my Bible reading. I'm the kind of guy that's like, alright.

I'll rip through three chapters and, you know, I wanna be disciplined, and I'm just like, I'm not I'm not internalizing any of this. New thing I've been doing is I'll take, like, four verses, and I'll say this entire week. The first thing I'm gonna do is dedicate myself to memorizing this. The second thing I'm gonna do is wrestle with this. Write it down.

How am I apply really, like, try to marinate in this. And so I'm starting with the real basics, first Corinthians 13, the whole idea about love. Right? I hear what you're saying. Why would God not strike me dead in light of how little I have to lose in a context like this to preach the gospel?

And yet, Paul says if it's not motivated by love, I can give my body. I can speak in the tongues of angels. I can literally give everything I have and sacrifice my body to the cause. But if it's not motivated by love, it counts for nothing. You have to look through the lens of Christ, like God's love for people, and everything has to be done through love.

And, also, I think, naturally, as you're reading the word of God and you have that relationship with Jesus through the word, the power of the Holy Spirit, you just it makes it easier to step out by faith. If you're constantly in the flow of reading and praying and really, like, believing what you're reading, it just happens. What I've noticed is that the difference between, like, a stagnant pond in a river is that my Bible reading and my times with God is also coupled with acts of faith and risk. When I read about something, but then I go out and I actually experience the power of what I'm reading, it totally motivates me to wanna go back to that same source and be like, this isn't theory. Yes.

This is reality. Yes. And, again, that's, I think, where this whole diving really, really deep. Because as I've done this, what I find is that the scripture just starts to cycle in my head in daily life. Right?

So I'm with my eight year old, my six year old, and my four year old, and I'm frustrated, and I just can't get love is patient, love is kind, love does it doesn't boast, it's not envious, it's, you know, it keeps the record of tomorrow, it's not proud, it's not self seeking. This is like and I'm like, I don't wanna even feel these thoughts, but I'm like, this is what it means to be loving. And so that that scripture then applied to real life, and you see the evidence and the power of that manifest in real life. I gotta be honest. I've been doing this for a long time.

And for the first time in years, I'm like, I can't wait to get back to my Bible reading. That's amazing. But isn't that because you're now reading the Bible in a nonreligious way? Chewing on it. Yeah.

And and, also, I think one thing I reading a lot of the Puritan writers, they talk about that prayer and Bible reading is the way it coalesces is through meditation. And we've we've allowed, like, Eastern thinking and Eastern religions to co opt this idea of meditation, but really meditation is just taking this truth and marinating Contemplation. And so you really Contemplation. What does this mean? What what does this mean for me?

What does this mean in my life? How how should this inform the way that I live? And, like, it's such a dumb, simple revelation, but I'm like, if I got my whole life to read this Bible, I don't need to rush it. Like, this isn't a quiz I'm cramming for. You know?

So I don't know. It's tangential. But No. No. It's for sure.

No. I inspiring me. I I love where where you're at, Barry. I did that not on the not on, like, the four verses, but I've decided I'm just kinda going through things slow. You meet people all the time.

How do you keep your heart soft? How does it not just become, like, another event, another crowd, another Yeah. What keeps your heart soft? Spending time with the Lord and letting his compassion flow from his life into your life constantly. How many times they're saying this in the gospels, like, he was moved with compassion and he went to heal.

You know? So we need to get that movement of compassion from him to us. You know, the sin is dealt with. Right? The whole purpose of this thing with Christ is relationship because he deals with the sin pretty quick.

You know? It's like, oh, you're forgiven, you're washed, and then you go through some deliverance and stuff like that. But now it's about two lives sharing into one life. His life in the eternal realm and our life here, and he's constantly pouring into us. So I feel like that if that's not happening and I'm speaking to myself right now because you know how touring gets.

You get dry out there. If that's not happening, then you can feel that just the opposite of compassion for people. People bug you. They're like, ugh. Get away from me.

You know? And, so, yeah, if we if you're not having his life flowing into yours, we're just gonna be a normal human, and people get on our nerves. It's stained in the word. That's it. It's literally just having that relationship, reading and praying, just feeding your spirit.

Because when the spirit's dead and it's weak, that's when you're pissed off at people. That's when you're pissed off at your wife. You're pissed off at yourself. You're like, it's when your spirit filled the fruits of the spirit is is what you just quoted from that verse. And and when you have that, you're refreshed and recharged, because life's crazy.

It's a cost of death to to self, death to ego, death to, selfishness. You know? Because Christ, what was he? He's about others. He was about all others.

He was not seeking his own comforts and his own you know, he's always about the father's business doing that. So it's a constant of dying to ourselves. And but it it sounds like it's hard, but when you do it, then he feels you. So it's like there's so much grace, which is supernatural gifting and ability to live this life because Christ is doing it through us. You know?

Well, there's also reflecting on the goodness of God and the beauty of the truth. Right? It's like we can be in this for so long. You can kinda think of these things as cliches, but I'm sitting there with my eight year old son trying to talk to him about the idea that it's really better to give than to receive. Like, that's not just like a cliche.

Like, your heart, your life, your joy will be more complete if you, through the power of God, allow yourself to be the kind of person that seeks to give, not to take. Yeah. And so because I'm trying to explain this to my son, I feel like I get this glimpse of God trying to explain this to me. Like, Ben, these are for your good. Like, to live this way is not some arbitrary thing I'm imposing on you.

Like, I want the best for you coming to scripture in that childlike way. Like, this is really true. Like, this is not just, like, these wise you know what I mean? Like, this is really true. And that's part of the meditation process, right, as you start to look at it not almost with more complexity, but in some ways with more simplicity.

Like, he really meant that. We give, we give, and then God gives to us. And it's just like, whether it's praying, whether it's lifting someone's spirits, whether it's financial, whether it's it's just all kinds of stuff. You give, and it will be given to you, Jesus said. And, frankly, I think it's so much more than material.

You know, you think of the idea of too much is given, much is expected. I think my immature understanding of that was, oh, people with a lot of money. And, frankly, the more I've come to realize what really matters in life, it's it's truth. It's knowing what's real. It's perspective.

It's experience. Some of the most miserable, lied to, deceived people I know have tons of material wealth. God ain't looking at them saying too much is given. God is going, man, that's a burden that they're having. That is a trap that they're having to overcome to see the truth.

To me, I I wouldn't trade the the amazing things God has revealed to me for any amount of money in the world. It's it's depreciating assets. It's nonsense. I mean, I'm surrounded. You know, my son plays hockey, and I'm surrounded all day long by people with tons of money and just empty hearts.

I'm the one who's rich. God's the one looking at me saying, Ben, what are you gonna do with this truth I've given you? You think they're rich because they have boats? Like, you know what's true, and they're dying with these lies. And so it's also a recognition of what really is wealth, what is really valuable.

And like you said, it's the word of God, and it's knowing what's true. And then I think a gratitude swells up in your heart to say, man, there are people who are dying. And it's not a obligation or a guilt or a duty. It's I care about what God cares about, and I don't want people to be destroyed by the world the way they are. The the only thing that will give anyone peace Yeah.

Is a relationship with God. I want a cyber truck. I had a Prius, and I bought this house right before COVID. I even took Corey from Slipknot in it. We did a skit where he just, like, dragged on me.

So I'm driving up this hill every day in my Prius, and it's like. So I was like, Lord, I feel like you should get a Tesla, but I don't care. I like my Prius, Lord. I didn't care. And then my daughter one day called me and she's like, can I buy your Prius?

I really want your Prius. And I'm like, that's random. The 18 year old girl wants a Prius. So I got the Tesla and but all that to say, it was god led when I got my Tesla. Brian, I need you to call this guy.

This guy I met that I prayed for in a restaurant, he's not a Jesus follower yet. He's an artist. I talked to him a couple days ago, and I said that you would call him, and you'd get him on stage. So somebody else's phone? You can't just call anybody nowadays.

We're gonna do it right now. Alright. Let's do it right now. His heart's open. Don't worry.

You can do my phone. I don't care. Yeah. I'm into these kinds of risks. Alright.

Here we go. Hey. Is this Christian? Yeah. Hey, buddy.

This is Brian Wells from Korn, and, I'm calling for you to give your life to Jesus right now. Okay. Hey. What's up, bro? It's Ed.

Remember you talked to me at the at the restaurant, and I told you that Brian from Korn would get ahold of you? Well, this is him. It's me. What's up? I'm at a podcast right now.

I'm at a David's podcast. We're on right now, actually, and he gave me your number, and we're calling you. Just say what's up. What's up? Sorry.

It's kind of a bad time right now. I'm at work. Okay. Well, I just wanna say hi. God loves you, and, have a good day at work, my friend.

We'll call you later. I go, you're gonna give her a lot of juju right now. He goes, okay. Yes. That was so easy.

Alright. Well, that was interesting. Hey. Look, Brian, Ryan, it's been awesome. I know you gotta go.

You got a show to play. Steve's gotta drop you off at the front door of the Excel Center, so we better let him go and do that. So thank you guys. This was an awesome conversation. Leave us a rating and review if this matters to you.

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